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The Madhab of the Salaf Was Not Tafwid – In Response to Hanafi Fiqh Channel

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Abu Taymiyyah Mohammed Jeylaani

I took time out this morning to refute the مفوضة those that say the ayaat that speak about the Sifat-the apparent wording is not the intended meaning because if we took the apparent meaning it necessitates تشبيه (resembling Allah to his creation) which is Kufr. I thought it was worth taking time out as the majority of the hanafi/deobandis/barelvis propagate this concept and people get confused because they covertly say THIS IS THE MADHAB OF THE SALAF

So what is the correct way of the SALAF and what Would a مفوض say for example

بَلْ يَدَاهُ مَبْسُوطَتَانِ يُنفِقُ كَيْفَ يَشَاءُ 
“Rather he has two outstretched generous hands “

Ahlus Sunnah, the Salafis would say that “Allah has two hands that suit his majesty without resembling Allah to his creation or say how, or distorting or even negating these attributes. A مفوض would say NO we cannot affirm because we would be resembling Allah with his creation, so we say only Allah knows best of the meanings in these ayat.

In summary

-you have proof from the (Naql-Textual) proofs and evidence from Quran and Sunnah

– And you can refute these people from the perspective of intellect.

The Naql – Texual Proofs

1) Every Ayat in the Quran that speaks about the Quran being a GUIDANCE, THE LIGHT, CLARIFICATION for everything demolishes their claims because they say the intended purpose is unknown. So how can unknown ayah guide you when Allah told us, 

تبيان لكل شيء
Clarification for everything

2) Every Ayat in the Quran that speaks about pondering and contemplating destroys their concept, Allah says

كِتَابٌ أَنزَلْنَاهُ إِلَيْكَ مُبَارَكٌ لِّيَدَّبَّرُوا آيَاتِهِ وَلِيَتَذَكَّرَ أُولُو الْأَلْبَابِ

“(It is) a Book We have revealed to you abounding in good that they may ponder over its verses.”

Did Allah say “Ponder over its verses – EXCEPT THE AYAT OF THE SIFAT” Or did he say all ayat ????

3) Every Ayah that speaks about the Quran being clear and manifest in the Arabic language SO THAT IT CAN HELP A PERSON COMPREHEND WITH HIS INTELLECT. Look what Allah said

إِنَّا جَعَلْنَاهُ قُرْآنًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ

Surely We have made it an Arabic Quran that you may understand.

إِنَّا أَنزَلْنَاهُ قُرْآنًا عَرَبِيًّا لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ

Surely We have revealed it– an Arabic Quran– that you may understand.

The question that I present to them, how can a person use his intellect and comprehend / understand the ayat if THE MEANINGS ARE UNKOWN.

4) Every Ayat that talks about the Quran being easy for remembrance refutes this concept,

وَلَقَدْ يَسَّرْنَا الْقُرْآنَ لِلذِّكْرِ فَهَلْ مِن مُّدَّكِرٍ

And certainly We have made the Quran easy for remembrance, but is there anyone who will mind?

The point is that anything that is easy for remembrance is normally manifest and clear in its meanings.

5) Every ayah that defames those who do not comprehend the Quran rebukes the concept to these people

أَمْ تَحْسَبُ أَنَّ أَكْثَرَهُمْ يَسْمَعُونَ أَوْ يَعْقِلُونَ إِنْ هُمْ إِلَّا كَالْأَنْعَامِ بَلْ هُمْ أَضَلُّ سَبِيلًا

Or do you think that most of them do hear or understand? They are nothing but as cattle; nay, they are straying farther off from the path.

So if you want to be like those mentioned in the Ayah that  CATTLE or MORE ASTRAY then take on this madhab of not comprehending the Ayat of sifat.

Refuting Their Doubts Through The عقل the Intellect

1) The fact that it is absolutely impossible for the Prophet (SalAllahu Alayhi Wasalam) would leave his Ummah without CLARIFICATION in the most honourable and greatest issues – the names and attributes of The Most High

The  Prophet (SalAllahu Alayhi Wasalam) said “ما تركت شيء يبعدكم عن الله ويقربكم الى النار الا ونهيتكم عنه ” 
I haven’t left anything that further you away from Allah and gets you closer to the hellfire except that I prohibited you from it.

The Prophet (SalAllahu Alayhi Wasalam) taught us the closest details of all that which how did

A) How he had a bath 
B) How he used the toilet until even a Jewish man man said to Salam al-Farisi (your Prophet taught you everything !!!!!)
C) How he combed his hair 
D) How to not sleep
E)  How he combed his hair

and so on. 

And then after all this brothers he left his ummah without clarification in regards to the most greatest of matters ?????

2) The people of Knowledge have unanimously agreed انه لا يجوز تاخير البيان عن وقت الحاجة 
That it is not permissible for the  Prophet (SalAllahu Alayhi Wasalam) to delay CLARIFYING AN EVIL MANNER AT ITS TIME.

There are many narration the Prophet (SalAllahu Alayhi Wasalam) ordered every one to read the Quran, small, big, ignorant, clever, man and woman.

Is it possible now the Prophet (SalAllahu Alayhi Wasalam) would command all these people to read the Quran when they would come across ayat (of Asma and Sifat) and the apparent of it is KUFR as they claim without notifying them ???

Did he say to them “OH COMPANIONS read the Quran BUT WHEN YOU COME TO THESE AYAT do not take the APPARENT MEANING because it is تشبيه which is KUFR ???

So it’s impossible

لوازم الفاسدة 
The Corrupt Meaning This Concept Necessitates

1) That the companions and the  Prophet (SalAllahu Alayhi Wasalam) were IGNORANT about these Ayat when they were revealed.  The Prophet (SalAllahu Alayhi Wasalam) spoke and the companions narrated and but they where ignorant about the matter??????

سبحانك هذا بهتان عظيم

How can this be possible when the companions asked questions, verified affairs and were the most eager to learn when they didn’t understand something !!!

Example (a)

The prophet salalahu alayhi wasalam said to Abu Hurairah (RadhiAllahu Anhu)  ” لقد ظننت ان لا يسالني عن هذا الحديث احد غيرك لما رأيت من حرصك على الحديث
I never thought some one other than you would ask me about about this matter due to the eagerness I saw in you to learn hadith.

Example (b)

The verse 
وَالَّذِينَ يُؤْتُونَ مَا آتَوا وَّقُلُوبُهُمْ وَجِلَةٌ أَنَّهُمْ إِلَىٰ رَبِّهِمْ رَاجِعُونَ

And those who give what they give (in alms) while their hearts are full of fear that to their Lord they must return,

A’isha (RadhiAllaha Anha) said is this ayah speaking about those people that do bad evil things and they are scared to meet Allah due to their sins

The  Prophet (SalAllahu Alayhi Wasalam) said NO

This Ayah is speaking about those who when they do GOOD deeds they are scared that they have not been accepted

2) القدح في حكمة والاساءة الظن به 
An Indirect Insult Towards The Wisdom of Allah and Having Bad Thought of Him

Allah sent down a book that is a guidance and a light AND ITS APPARENT MEANING IS MISGUIDANCE AND KUFR

3) opening a wide door of deviation away from the شريعة sharia

This is so because every tom dick and Harry can turn up tomorrow and present any Ayah from the Quran and say this Ayah or that Ayah is from the متشابهات. Oh you مفوضة (who have said the apparent meaning is not correct in the ayat pertaining names and attributed. Then all the other commandments in the Quran which are apparent SHOULD ALSO NOT BE TAKEN.

When Allah prohibited ZINA, why don’t we say it has a meaning only Allah knows??? When Allah prohibited shirk, why don’t u say that it has a meaning only Allah knows ?? And so on. The philosopher will come to you and say the matters of the hereafter, “Come on these things are impossible because we cannot see them SO THERE MUST BE ANOTHER MEANING TO IT.” So our whole religion might as well be said about it “Only Allah knows it’s correct meaning “

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6 comments

  1. Wouldnt the understanding be that zina, khamr and shirk are fundamental aspects, actions and understandings to be attributed to humans/the creation, with these things manifest in humans/creations meaning we can act upon these, and that we, due to them being involved, around or tangible and attributed to us can comprehend these matters.

    However, when it comes to Allah, first of all we know that there is no likeness to creation for a fact, and secondly, we cannot comprehend the matters of Allah say in relation to sifaat, other than affirming what Allah has stated and not going any further then that, and isnt thus there a reason why scholars condemned other scholars, not only the laymen, from even dipping their fingers into these philosophical matters of position and body etc.?

    Similarly if the Quran and Hadith were to easy to understand then why do I have to follow scholars and use scholars as a means of interpreting and understanding Quranic ayats and themes etc. for example:

    Surat Qaf [verse 16] – “And We have already created man and know what his soul whispers to him, and We are closer to him than [his] jugular vein.”

    Rather I should just go to Quran and understand it myself, and the above ayat example i have posted seems pretty clear.

    If you can clarify/respond I would very much appreciate it.

    • We ask the scholars due to sheer number of evidences and the lay person may not have the ability to know all of them however when a scholar tells him the rulings he follows and this is what is easy. Also it is possible that we have made issues so difficult for example Imaam Ibn Khuzaimah said no 2 ahadith ever contradict each other. It is surely a case of the Scholars or Ahlul ilm simplyfying issues for us not that that they are unclear

  2. This one verse refutes your whole article. Your whole article basically paraphrases to ”Everything in Qur’an is clear and so should follow everything literally”

    Qur’an [3:7]

    ”It is He who has sent down to you, [O Muhammad], the Book; in it are verses [that are] precise – they are the foundation of the Book – and others unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation [from truth], they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation [suitable to them]. And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allah. But those firm in knowledge say, “We believe in it. All [of it] is from our Lord.” And no one will be reminded except those of understanding.”

    • i suggest you read the ayah again and you might find that it refutes your logic, a litte shocked that you could even use this ayah in your defence.

    • i suggest you read the ayah again and you might find that it refutes your logic, a little shocked that you could even use this ayah in your defence.

  3. brother admin, i suggest u to mention the statemnts of salaf where they demolished the idea of tafwid

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